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Old 06-09-2008, 09:28 PM
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Shanghainese accent leads to monotone English?
A guy I know grew up in Shanghai and is now in the US, and he speaks English in a very monotone way. I have occasionally wondered whether there was something wrong with him, like... Is he depressed? Is he just kind of boring, with no enthusiasm for anything? Or even... Is he somewhat unintelligent?

But last weekend it was suggested that the explanation might be simply that he is from Shanghai, because the Shanghainese accent is flat with few tone changes in the voice.

Does this sound right? Has anybody heard of this connection before, between being from Shanghai and speaking monotone English?

Is there a way he can get over it, or is he probably doomed to bore people with that flat speech pattern?

I really like him, and I have mentioned this issue to him. He told me that he senses it, but he really doesn't know what to do about it.

Any thoughts?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:36 PM
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This is the first time I've heard such a thing. I don't think Shanghainese has fewer tone changes, and I don't think it affects one's English in that way. Maybe he's related to Ben Stein?

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A guy I know grew up in Shanghai and is now in the US, and he speaks English in a very monotone way. I have occasionally wondered whether there was something wrong with him, like... Is he depressed? Is he just kind of boring, with no enthusiasm for anything? Or even... Is he somewhat unintelligent?

But last weekend it was suggested that the explanation might be simply that he is from Shanghai, because the Shanghainese accent is flat with few tone changes in the voice.

Does this sound right? Has anybody heard of this connection before, between being from Shanghai and speaking monotone English?

Is there a way he can get over it, or is he probably doomed to bore people with that flat speech pattern?

I really like him, and I have mentioned this issue to him. He told me that he senses it, but he really doesn't know what to do about it.

Any thoughts?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:39 PM
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This is the first time I've heard such a thing. I don't think Shanghainese has fewer tone changes, and I don't think it affects one's English in that way. Maybe he's related to Ben Stein?
LOL

It was another Shanghai native who suggested this (who is younger than the first guy and who has been in the US longer, and is taking acting lessons and so he does not speak monotone).
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I think it's him, lol. No different than native english speakers who speak english monotonously. One of my first gf's had friends from Shanghai and nope, they don't speak english or mandarin less pronounced. It's was fun listening to taiwanese mandarin accent and shanghai accent conversing.

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Old 06-10-2008, 12:29 PM
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Having been in Shanghai, I'd say it's him.
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It could be a result of being tone deaf. I had a couple of employees who were tone deaf and they spoke in a very monotonous tone.
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cmon dudes. lets not all be too pc here... the guy doesnt have a personality plain and simple.
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Old 06-14-2008, 03:53 PM
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Get him drunk. See if anything changes.
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To me, Shang hei wu is very pleasant and has lots of variations in speech...I would think if anything Mandarin would be like that, like people on CCTV
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My current guy is Shanghainese and he speaks with good tone, not well, but he has tone to his voice.
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