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Old 07-22-2008, 11:47 PM
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8 Dating Myths Busted Article

Dating blarney: Busted!
By Kimberly Dawn Neumann
Article is from The Asian Playboy

In the spirit of applying the luck of the Irish to your love life, we’ve gathered an array of dating blarney we’d like to see permanently obliterated. Learn what our experts have to say, and you may soon be on your way to finding relationship gold that’s not hidden at the end of the rainbow.

Bit of blarney #1: There’s no such thing as love at first sight.
Reality: Actually, there is... but interestingly, it happens more often for men than for women. “Men can fall in love instantaneously when they lay eyes on someone attractive because they’re so visual,” says Dr. Helen Fisher, a noted anthropologist at Rutgers University and author of Why We Love. Women, on the other hand, are biologically programmed to “fall” differently: Since women aren’t as visual, they’re slower to feel smitten. “Women at least have to talk to the person!” she says.

Bit of blarney #2: Men should always pay for a first date.
Reality: If a woman invites you, you are her guest and she pays. “Stop the diving-for-the-wallet dance,” says etiquette expert Gloria Starr. “The person who asks is the person who pays. Women can and should plan dates.” But Starr cautions against going Dutch from square one—let one person or the other pay. She says that dividing the check is a bad way to begin a new relationship, because it sends a message that neither one of you is investing in the bond.

Bit of blarney #3: Single women rearrange their schedule to see a guy they like.
Reality: “In a study of hundreds of Americans, we found that men were more likely to change their patterns and habits to be available for women,” says Dr. Fisher. So, if a man is interested in a woman, he might actually be the one waiting by the phone or obsessively checking his email so that he can redo his schedule to see his sweetie.

Bit of blarney #4: If a guy doesn’t immediately show his interest, he doesn’t really like you.
Reality: Actually, the reverse is more likely to be true. If a guy likes you and doesn’t want to mess things up, he’s more likely to move slowly. “Some of the worst dating disasters I’ve heard of involve men who dazzle with their insistence that you’re ‘The One’ right after they meet you,” says Dalma Heyn, therapist and author of Drama Kings: The Men Who Drive Strong Women Crazy. “You feel flattered and thrilled, get intimate, and then he’s gone! He only wanted to woo you, not win you.”

Bit of blarney #5: Play hard-to-get to land a man.
Reality: This belief usually goes hand-in-hand with some others, like a woman should never call a man, always pretend to be busy, and never say yes to a date unless it’s far in advance, right? Wrong. When it comes to dating, there are no hard-and-fast rules to follow,” says Joni Mantell, a psychotherapist and love coach who practices in New York and New Jersey. Yes, hard-to-get can be a quality that confident people possess—confident people are more discerning. “But fake confidence or toughness creates distance,” cautions Mantell. Develop confidence and your own rules, and the right partner will get you, difficult or not!

Bit of blarney #6: It’s always a mistake to date someone at work.
Reality: “It often works, if you are smart about it,” says Ronna Lichtenberg, author of Pitch Like a Girl: How A Woman Can Be Herself And Still Succeed. Lichtenberg suggests some ground rules: Don't date more than one person interoffice, and only go for it when the chemistry is definitely there—i.e., do not use your cubicle as a regular pick-up joint. Of course, you should stick to common sense and corporate rules regarding boss-subordinate dating. Make sure you both agree beforehand on what you’ll tell your coworkers. Finally, Lichtenberg advises, “Don’t do it if you are prone to bad break-ups. And don’t lie—you know if you are.”

Bit of blarney #7: Sex is just an animal urge for men.
Reality: Actually, Dr. Fisher says that men tend to regard sex as more intimate than women. “It’s easier for a woman to find someone to have sex with her if she wants it,” she says. “For women, sex is a real gift to men. Men have to do the courting, so when they get sex, they feel a closeness because they’ve ‘earned’ it,” says Dr. Fisher. Too bad that doesn’t always extend to the post-coital cuddle!

Bit of blarney #8: Women can’t deal when a relationship ends.
Reality: Studies show that three out of four people who become extremely upset and take drastic measures post-break-up are men. Says Dr. Fisher, “It’s a myth that women take break-ups harder!” Sure, women are bummed (enter weepy movie marathons and Chubby Hubby), but since more guys are raised without the tools to deal with their feelings, they tend to be the ones who actually flip out after a bad break-up. Lesson learned? Toss a pint of ice cream to your guy friends who are mourning a break-up, too.
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Interesting... but I don't agree with #2!
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Interesting... but I don't agree with #2!
Asians do that in asia itself. "The one who asks is the one who pays", even between guys unless it was discussed beforehand or it was normally dutch before. Normally the custom is payor switches depending on who's asking; aiken to going dutch in the west. Of course traditional guys/ladies will always expect the man to pay..

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"Bit of blarney #1: There’s no such thing as love at first sight."

I think for guys it's more "lust at first sight". Thinking more with their penis size than what love really is. I also think both sexes misinterpret love at first sight as suddenly finding their 'soul mate' which is two vastly different ideals if you ask me.

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Old 07-23-2008, 01:38 PM
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I also don't agree with #2 - the guy should at least pay the first time if he wants to be a gentleman about it.
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Asians do that in asia itself. "The one who asks is the one who pays", even between guys unless it was discussed beforehand or it was normally dutch before. Normally the custom is payor switches depending on who's asking; aiken to going dutch in the west. Of course traditional guys/ladies will always expect the man to pay..

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Actually it makes sense that the one who asks for a date is the one to pay but then as an old-fashioned or yes, one can also call it traditional, person (like me) one would never ask a man for a date anyway. So no matter what...in my book the man pays until I am in a relationship with him.

So, I don't agree with #2 either.
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Actually it makes sense that the one who asks for a date is the one to pay but then as an old-fashioned or yes, one can also call it traditional, person (like me) one would never ask a man for a date anyway. So no matter what...in my book the man pays until I am in a relationship with him.

So, I don't agree with #2 either.
It's funny how bill paying can be confusing. I heard from a female colleague who is a professional (perhaps modern) woman, who likes to pay her share only because she thinks it's fair. But the man she meets with (perhaps traditional man) gets really upset. Then she gets upset for being treated as less than what she is. Moral of the lesson: there's no win either a man pays or not because you just don't know what kind of women you are meeting. And it's not an easy subject to discuss beforehand with someone you barely know.
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It's funny how bill paying can be confusing. I heard from a female colleague who is a professional (perhaps modern) woman, who likes to pay her share only because she thinks it's fair. But the man she meets with (perhaps traditional man) gets really upset. Then she gets upset for being treated as less than what she is. Moral of the lesson: there's no win either a man pays or not because you just don't know what kind of women you are meeting. And it's not an easy subject to discuss beforehand with someone you barely know.

The best solution to that is to offer to pay but not insist on it if the lady in question objects strenuously. Obviously you will know by the end of the first date whether she will be very independent minded and insist on paying her fair share, so just don't press the issue. Of course I have been on dates where the girl has demurred, but then secretly really still wanted me to insist on paying...
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Here's a long thread we had on who pays during dates... Please refer here.

How do you handle bills during dating?

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I disagree with No. 2 like most others in this thread
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